[Joe Hanley]

Cool patch! You can hear a brighter version of it a few seconds before which is helpful in figuring it out. Try this:

Oscillator

• Waveform: Saw
• Unison: Four voices with Detune turned up enough to make it a little aggresive. 50% Width/Spread.

Filter:

• Type: Lowpass
• Slope: 12 dB
• Cutoff: Turn down until you get the right amount of roundness.
• Res: Bring it up a bit to shape the sound and make it poke out a bit
• Drive: If available, boost it heavily to bring in some serious warmth. This will also be achieved with a warm distortion (see below) so if you don’t have Drive, it’s ok.

Amp Envelope

• Description: A quick horn shape.
• Quick Attack around 100 ms. This creates the horn-like attack. If your synth allows you to set the curve of the attack stage, make it so that it’s not perfectly straight but instead dips down in the middle a bit. Often referred to as “exponential”. This helps create the very sudden “swoop” attack
• Sustain: 0
• Very fast Decay/Release: 60 ms

Distortion

• Type: Tube-style. Something warm.
• Drive/Amount: Pretty heavy. Between this and the Filter Drive you want a sound that’s warm, and also breaks up a bit. Kind of dirty. This may be achieved with one or both, but I found a combination sounds nice./li>

Reverb

• Size: Medium. Like a small Hall.
• Wet: Wet enough to be heard, but not so wet that it consumes the sound. Reverb from a distance
• Dampening: Bring down the highs a bit to create a round and warm reverb

Voicing

• Mode: Mono

[Joe Hanley]

The Wow sound is very close. Few tweaks:
– Try adding some unison, with mild detune to widen it out and make it more intense.
– Try switching to a low pass filter, and modulating from bright to dark over the course of “wow”. It’ll make it less brittle, and give it more oomph.

But your combination of wavetable and Quantize comes really close to the tone. The only tricky part I’m hearing is how sometimes in the recording the Wow is really warped, almost like FM modulation, before it makes a clear “wow”. I’m not sure what’s doing that. After tinkering around I created something like it using the E_Yeah wavetable and Mirror. Tweaking the Mirror knob warps the sound in a way similar to the recording, but the overall sound is still a little too far off.

The bass patch was missing a noise wavetable that I’m guessing is from a 3rd party? Either way, I think that patch has a close tone but it’s missing the upfront solid bass character. This is largely due to the effects. So…
– I would take all of the effects off, except the filter effect, which you’re using to chop off some highs.
– Instead, to get the phaser-like character, use the main filter’s “Phs 12+” type. Wherever you set the Cutoff you get this very focused scooped out sound reminiscent of a phaser, but it doesn’t take away from the up-front solidness of the sound. It’s more focused. And it seems in the recording that phaser sound takes on a different character with each note, so from the mod matrix, you can route the “NoteOn Rand1” source to the filter cutoff. Now every note will take on a different phaser character. Very cool!
– Set the Sub osc to the 0 octave, and enable “Direct Out”. This will provide a nice round solid low end as well.

This whole drop is a tornado of sound design. It’s really impressive. I can tell you’re really willing to experiment in order to find the right tone. Nice work.

[Joe Hanley]

Nice work guys! And thanks for fielding this one Jonathan. It’s great to have some strong ears helping out on this forum.

I find some parameters sound the same between synths, and others are very different. As Jonathan mentioned, distortion usually differs quite a bit. And the Filters can vary from subtle to drastic. While subtractive waveforms, like Saw, are almost identical.

[Joe Hanley]

Matis wrote:

Hi. I want to post something to forum but I keep getting a: “you cannot reply to this topic” error. Tried a couple of different browsers. Anyone got any idea how can i post a patch request?

Regards, Matis

Fixed it. It was pending moderation. You can view it here: https://www.syntorial.com/community/topic/5-sounds-of-80s/

[Joe Hanley]

Matis wrote:

Hi. I want to post something to forum but I keep getting a: “you cannot reply to this topic” error. Tried a couple of different browsers. Anyone got any idea how can i post a patch request?

Regards, Matis

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[Joe Hanley]

That’s dense and complex. Sounds great. There’s so much going on. Have you attempted it yet? I think it would be more productive for you to post your attempt and then I can provide some suggestions.

[Joe Hanley]

Few things:

Is yours made with a synth? It sounds like a string sample. In any case:

Using a synth, start with saw wave. And then add low pass filter and bring the Cutoff down enough to make a little rounder, but not as bright. Your patch is brighter so the rounding will help a lot. Also, in the filter, increase the Res. This will make the sound narrower, a little more shaped.

Lastly, make it a mono patch, and turn up the portamento so that as you switch from note to note, they bend into each other. That being said, I think the very first bend is made with the pitch wheel.

[Joe Hanley]

Few things:

1. Your pulse width in Osc 1 is set to Square. Turn it to about 2:00 to get a medium pulse width

2. In Noisemaker, Osc 2 doesn’t have pulse width control. Instead it’s an FM knob, which you had cranked, which really changed the sound. I would turn the FM off, and switch to a Saw. Saw is closest thing to a medium pulse width sound

3. Elongate the Amp envelope Decay and Release a bit.

4. Bump up the filter envelope amount (contour)

[Joe Hanley]

Ah! Thanks for sniffing that out. Will take a closer look and get that fixed for the next update.

[Joe Hanley]

It sounds like it may have been caused by a very specific sequence of steps leading up to the Mono/Poly change. If you encounter it again, try to remember the last few steps you took before changing the lfo mode, and let me know. I’ll try to recreate it on my end.

[Joe Hanley]

yawnyarko wrote:

Been hammering out the lessons these past 2 weeks and I can’t believe how much I can do with sound design now. I’m truly blown away and sending you many thanks. Syntorial is a game changer and I love the sounds from Primer. I wish you many blessing Joe!

I love to hear that! I’m glad you’re finding it so helpful.

[Joe Hanley]

Oscillator 1

• Waveform: Medium Pulse

Oscillator 2

• Waveform: Medium Pulse
• Pitch: 1 Octave lower

Unison

• Note: Unison is the best way to get width. However, like in the Sub 37’s case, Unison may not be an option. So instead, you’d want to double the track, pan one track left and the other right, and very slightly raise the pitch of one of the synths. This is essentially what Unison is doing anyway
• Voices: 2
• Width: 100%
• Detune: Just enough to allow the voices to spread out

Amp Envelope

• Description: Pluck shape.
• Sustain: 0
• Decay/Release: 340 ms

Filter

• Type: Lowpass
• Slope: 24 dB
• Cutoff: Turn down pretty far, so that’s it’s a nice round bass sound. This will be modulated in the upcoming Filter Envelope

Filter Envelope

• Description: Same exact pluck shape and settings as the Amp Envelope.
• Mod Amount: Turn it up until it sounds right.
• You’ll probably have to go back and forth between Mod Amount and Cutoff to get this right

[Joe Hanley]

Cassiebooh92 wrote:

Hello,

I luv this song. Cool remake video

Can u make the bass also?

Try this:

Oscillator

• Waveform: Triangle

Amp Envelope

• Description: Quick swell in, and a quick swell out.
• Attack: 140 ms
• Release: 215 ms

Distortion

• Type: Tube-style
• Drive/Amount: A decent amount. Turn it up until the sound gets a little brighter and dirtier

[Joe Hanley]

Post your attempt here and I’ll take a listen.

[Joe Hanley]

Try this:

BASS

Oscillator 1

• Waveform: Saw

Oscillator 2

• Waveform: Saw
• Pitch: 1 octave lower
• NOTE: You may have to adjust the phase of one of the oscillators until they combine to create the right sound.

Filter:

• Type: Lowpass
• Slope: 24 dB
• Cutoff: Turn down pretty far, so that’s it’s a nice round bass sound. This will be modulated in the upcoming Filter Envelope
• Res: Bring it up a bit
• Drive: If available, boost it to add some oomph

Filter Envelope

• Description: A quickly decaying shape.
• Sustain: 0
• Decay/Release: 270 ms
• Mod Amount: Turn it up until it sounds right.
• You’ll probably have to go back and forth between Mod Amount, Cutoff and Res to get this right

Amp Envelope

• Description: We just need a little tail
• Release: Around 300 ms.

Voicing

• Mode: Mono

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Oscillator

• Waveform: Saw
• Unisons: Six voices with Detune turned up enough so that it sounds kind-of pitchy, a little out-of-tune. 100% Width

Amp Envelope

• Description: A really long tail
• Release: around 5 seconds.

Voicing

• Mode: Poly
• Number of voices: least 4

• This reply was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by Joe Hanley.