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  • In reply to: 5 sounds of 80s

    September 1, 2020 at 8:40 pm #37166
    Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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      Yazoo:

      Note: While programming this patch I had to bend my oscillator’s fine knob up about 30 cents to sound in tune with the recording lol.

      Osc: Saw.

      Filter: Band Pass. 24 dB. Cutoff is set pretty low to allow for the horn movement in the patch which leads me to…

      Filter Envelope: Very fast attack. Push the filter envelope to a pretty bright sound. The horn attack in this patch is faster than the lowest fixed setting on Syntorial (besides 0 ms).

      Amp Envelope: Give the notes a tail, set decay and release to the same value. Attack should be instant.

      Unison: Two voices, medium spread. Detune enough to get a pulsation. Turn off “Start” or “Retrig” to avoid getting a harsh transient on each note.

      Reverb: Maybe not needed since your amp envelope has a tail, and it may have been due to the song’s recording, but I hear a little reverberation in. Small mix, pretty large room.

      In reply to: 5 sounds of 80s

      September 1, 2020 at 2:19 pm #37161
      Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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        Hi,

        Taking a jab at these one at a time so I can get to you as I work through these five.

        New Order:

        Osc: Saw. I experimented with different pulse widths but thought they all sounded too hollow. Saw gives the fuller sound I hear in the song.

        Filter: Low pass, 24 dB. The cutoff isn’t too low, surprisingly. (For reference, in Serum, it’s set to 1760 Hz)

        Filter Envelope: Very short decay and release. Bump the filter envelope amount up just a bit.

        Amp Envelope: Also a short decay and release, but somewhat longer than the filter envelope so you can hear the filter movement.

        Resonance: Bump it up a bit to hear the point moving down.

        Unison: 4 voices, wide spread, only a little detune to hear the spread, but not enough to make it sound out of tune.

        Make sure your oscillator is in “Start” or “Retrig” mode to hear that consistent pulsation at the beginning of each note.

        Velocity: I routed mine to volume, because the lower notes in this track (the notes on the beat as opposed to the syncopated notes) sound quieter. I just made sure to hit the higher notes harder.

        In reply to: Help recreating techno lead

        September 1, 2020 at 2:41 am #37143
        Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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          At the same time, if the same settings in different synths gave the exact same sound, there wouldn’t be much point in having different synths! 😛

          In reply to: Help recreating techno lead

          August 31, 2020 at 8:45 pm #37134
          Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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            I have the cutoff set at around 60 Hz. I tried recreating my Sylenth patch in Serum but also can’t get it to sound the same. I think it has to do with the Distortion effect – I’m not sure what setting gives the same sound that Sylenth/Primer gives. I’ve attached an audio file of my Sylenth patch below, for reference. Let me know if it sounds close enough to what you’re looking for. If so I’ll keep trying to reproduce this sound in Serum.

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            In reply to: Help recreating techno lead

            August 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm #37087
            Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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              Hi,

              I’m not the Keymaster himself but I gave recreating this patch a try with Sylenth1. I focused on the section of the song between 2:18 and 3:19. Here’s what I did:

              Osc 1: Medium Pulse

              Sub Osc: Square Wave

              Amp Env: Instant/very short release. As long as you play the notes short it shouldn’t muddy the track.

              Filter: Low pass, 24 dB, cutoff is quite low.

              Filter Env: Very short decay and release. Envelope amount is around 10 o’clock in Primer. Crank up the resonance knob a bit, too.

              Unison: 6 voices, very heavy detune. Spread is very wide.

              Distortion: Overdrive (the same distortion style Syntorial uses, IIRC), crank it up pretty high to get that grungy sound, but not so high that the sound becomes nasty.

              Reverb: Large room, quite wet.

              The section of the song I focused on had a lot going on with the cutoff and the resonance. Both changed a lot but didn’t seem to change together, so my guess is that the Mod Wheel controls resonance and the Velocity controls cutoff.

              Velocity: Cutoff. I found that if you set the cutoff too low, the notes start to sound out of tune.

              Mod Wheel: Resonance. Don’t be afraid to really crank it high for those notes with the huge filter envelope decay. Be warned that on notes with lower cutoff, it doesn’t sound as nice.

              My patch doesn’t sound perfect compared to the song, but I’ve attached the file below. In particular, the resonant notes seem to have fewer highs so the Velocity destination might be the Filter Envelope instead (not available in Sylenth).

              I’m sure Joe can iron out the kinks in this though 😛

              In reply to: Question about Primer

              August 17, 2020 at 10:44 pm #36762
              Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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                I got it to happen again! It doesn’t seem to be due a sequence of programming controls, though. Here’s what I did.

                I have another patch right below Dog named “Focus” that uses the Mod Wheel. On Focus, I play some notes, then turn the Mod Wheel all the way up. While still holding those notes, I use the up arrow to get to Dog, and in LFO Poly mode, it sounds like normal. Then I switch to LFO Mono and get that weird behavior.

                In fact, how high the Mod Wheel is set to before switching to Dog seems to determine the intensity of the effect.

                I’ve attached Focus below:

                In reply to: Question about Primer

                August 16, 2020 at 11:19 pm #36729
                Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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                  I nudged the LFO Amount knob back and forth and now the Mono behavior is gone, and I can’t get it to happen again. I wonder what that was about.

                  In reply to: Question about Primer

                  August 16, 2020 at 9:29 pm #36726
                  Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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                    The standalone synth. VST.

                    Jonathan EppeleJonathan Eppele
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                      Sorry, I’m referring to the sustained, high-pitched lead. I wasn’t sure if this patch was doubled and transposed or not.