[Joe Hanley]

elliespohr wrote:

roza madlal wrote:

I wish us, and everyone who will study here to succeed in doing what he dreams of

Because obviously women aren’t here either. I love it when men use exclusive language and then wonder why women are put off from participating. It’s a shame Joe didn’t notice and call it out himself. Hopefully you’ll think more carefully about your wording in the future and not dismiss this concern out of hand. It bothers more of us than you think but society tells us to sit down and shut up about it.

Thanks for pointing this out Ellie. I must admit, I didn’t even notice it. Production and synthesis is SO male-dominated and there are so few non-male voices in the conversation. Just as an example, our Youtube audience is 95% male. The music production world is missing out on a wealth of perspectives.

At the same time, despite the use of the “he” pronoun, Roza’s message was an excellent one specifically targeted at the individual who was very discouraged. I absolutely support inclusivity in production but I also don’t want to discount his very helpful advice.

I encourage everyone to check out Equalize Production: https://equalizeproduction.com/. They’re specifically focused on gender-inclusive music education. We’ve partnered with them in the past and they were a pleasure to work with.

[elliespohr]

I don’t disagree that it’s overall a good message and I certainly agree with the intended sentiment. It’s just that literally replacing a single word and removing one additional letter would make it inclusive of everyone. It’s just frustrating as you see it everywhere.

“I wish us, and everyone who will study here to succeed in doing what they dream of.”